So what does Sam do during all of this?
I’m assuming you mean in a world where Destiel is canon, so:
The same as he’s always done; be…
Ok, well you seem angry. I’m not trying to make you angry. I just don’t agree with you.
And just because the relationships with Sam are with “evil” characters (because as “evil” as they are, they have HUGE fanbases anyway…people love them just as much as other “good” characters i.e. Lucifer and Meg and Ruby) doesn’t make them any less significant, in my opinion.
I also think part of the reason it’s so hard to have Sam make those meaningful relationships with people is because the story is essentially always about Dean saving Sammy from whatever he is going through at the time. So he’s the one in the mire and Dean has to create those other relationships in order to help save Sam and pull him back out. So I can see how he doesn’t get as many opportunities to make those connections but that’s not necessarily anyone’s fault but the writers.
And as much as Sam “erasure” bothers those that love Sam and don’t care about Destiel or hate it, it does not mean that people that love Sam and also want Destiel to be canon are “hating” on Sam. There’s a very big difference. So ok, to you trading a REALLY SMALL amount of time from your favorite character to have just a LITTLE focus somewhere else is “erasing” him. That’s your opinion. But it’s a little interesting that this is the case because people propose very often for Cas to be gone completely from the show when he’s become a very integral part of the show but Cas “erasure” is never brought up. And Dean “erasure” is never discussed because when it is discussed people usually label it as Sam “hate” or people WANTING Sam “erasure.”
I just think that you’re drawing a line where there doesn’t need to be one. I’m sorry that it would make a lot of people unhappy if Destiel became canon and Sam had a LITTLE less focus on him. I really am. I love all three of Team Free Will pretty equally so to me it’s not an issue. But having the opinion is one thing about Sam - harassing others and jumping on them whenever they talk about how much they would love Destiel being canon and so accusing them of of inherently committing Sam erasure? That’s not particularly cool because most of those people are NOT trying to erase Sam. So to them, it ISN’T erasure. Because they have Sam still, just not as MUCH as Sam fans would (apparently) like.
People that want Destiel to be canon usually go out of their way to make sure everyone knows they still love Sam. Why? Because they usually automatically get labeled as Sam “haters” or wanting Sam to be “erased” and that’s not the case. Just because there’s an erasure for you does not mean there’s an erasure for me, and I can love Sam in that way and have it be a fine and awesome love and not be a horrible person trying to erase him from everyone else maliciously.
**I should specify I am not saying that YOU do all these things Kota. I’m just talking, you know me.
I do not want want Destiel to be canon.so here goes my opinion
So ok, to you trading a REALLY SMALL amount of time from your favorite character to have just a LITTLE focus somewhere else is “erasing” him.
No time of Sam’s should be spent for destiel (if canon)according to me.However little time Sam gets we will not even get that.If time has to be made for destiel then it has to be at the expense of Dean alone or Cas alone time.
Krissy was a person who sam went to help and it was all three of them that resolved the case.But Krissy could only nod at Sam.Writers are at fault .So?there was a chance of Sam interacting and I did not get it.So Sam’s screentime is reduced.That was a one off or two off episode.But if destiel becomes canon it may be an ongoing problem.That is why they can sacrifice Dean only or cas only time (with characters other than sam or themselves)..and better stay away from sam time.
^^^^ Of course don’t agree about wanting Destiel to be canon, but I actually really think you’ve hit the solution.
Dean and Cas time is ultimately the time TRULY affected if Destiel became canon. And just because some of their time would be focused a little less on other random things and a little more on relationship issues does not inherently mean to me that Sam time would be reduced or he’d be sidelined. So I agree with you. I think I would rather have Dean and Cas AND Sam being badasses and fighting things, and instead of having the weird random one off things of Dean or Cas only time, that time can be utilized for their relationship instead. Hell even having Cas be around more would OPEN UP a lot of possibilities for MORE Sam time, in my opinion, because Sam and Cas have a lot of shit to work out between them. They’ve never fully talked about the stuff between THEM that doesn’t have to do with Dean really, like breaking the wall and pulling his body out but leaving his soul. I don’t want it to JUST be Sam time on one side, and Destiel time on the other. I want ALL Team Free Will intermingling and having strong relationships together and having their time used for important things instead of random one off story elements.
That would be ideal if it were only Dean and Cas time which were effected.But there is this tendency with the writers to have dean and side character bonding while Sam is out of the scene doing something.God knows what or sometimes be a blurry blob at the background.Its like Sam’s POV is swept under the rug .While Dean’s POV is highlighted as much as possible.If Dean and Cas want to work on their relation let them do it off screen (If destiel happens) while Sam interacts with the side character.
This might seem like a trivial matter But while you want Dean and Cas AND Sam being badass,I want Sam and Dean AND Cas or Dean and Sam AND Cas being badass.
The solution would work in an ideal supernatural portrayal but as far as I can see the POV aspect is so slanted that when Dean is getting mytharc Sam is still deprived of the POV and asked to get out of the room.
I vehemently oppose to destiel on these grounds.